motz
dilluns, 10. de desembre 2007

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da wird's wieder g'schichtn regnen 1.1.1983. NCP to TCP/IP, mission completed.

guess it's time to open the archive a little bit as it reminded me of an old discussion; and as the net means dublication i do it here and there. vint cerf was back then at mci and with bob kahn and hubert zimmerman guests in my mailbox. in case you ask, yes i was/am proud about.

the question was why the core of the arpanet community didn't join the discussion on osi and tried to influence it from their part?

The simple answer is that the DARPA effort had been under way since 1973. By the time the first papers on OSI architecture emerged, 1978, we were 5 years into the development and testing of TCP/IP and it was time to implement and deploy. As the DARPA program manager for the effort, I was not willing to spend another 5 years in negotiations on a new suite of protocols when we had something that looked pretty solid. We spent 1978 through 1982 implementing TCP/IP for a score of operating systems and deployed the system on January 1, 1983. As it was, it had taken 10 years of work to get from the concept to the reality of deployment and that was largely only to the computer science research community and selected military installations.

Over the next decade, there was a long-standing debate between the OSI community and the Internet group. As the world wide web emerged to public view in the early 1990s, it became clearer that the Internet had reached a stable and commercial state - in fact, by 1995, both the ARPANET and the NSFNET had been retired and except for special purpose networks, the academic community was relying on commercial Internet service.

If I had to summarize, I would say several things:

  1. The TCP/IP work benefited from work done by Louis Pouzin, Gerard LeLann and Hubert Zimmermann in the INRIA research labs led by Pouzin.
  2. The International Network Working Group that became IFIP 6.1 allowed substantial international exposure to the Internet design and protocols
  3. The OSI effort came too late into the DARPA sponsored program to become integrated into it. This was a personal decision on my part to get wider, real-world experience with the TCP/IP protocols as a more realistic way of evolving the internet rather than spending an uncertain amount of time having further design discussions that were less informed by real experience. | vint cerf, july 2005

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Magst mir was dazu schreiben?

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ich schreib mir eh nur mehr darüber die finger wund ;)

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Urgs.

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mein zweiter name ist archiv und wir schreiben das jahr 19xy

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20 years

Postel: RFC801
It was clear from the start of this research on other networks that the base host-to-host protocol used in the ARPANET was inadequate for use in these networks. In 1973 work was initiated on a host-to-host protocol for use across all these networks. The result of this long effort is the Internet Protocol (IP) and the Transmission Control Protocol (TCP).

These protocols allow all hosts in the interconnected set of these networks to share a common interprocess communication environment. The collection of interconnected networks is called the ARPA Internet (sometimes called the "Catenet").

So if the transition was complete on Jan 1, 1983 would not then be Jan 1 2013 the real 30th anniversary of the functional internet?

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that's what we already suggested 2008 at fuzo ;)

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